tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post5468198260408374695..comments2023-05-04T10:46:17.991-05:00Comments on Wezlo's Musings: If you schedule it - people won't come.wezlohttp://www.blogger.com/profile/02651181921670224308noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post-49351483320115713602008-03-02T20:11:00.000-05:002008-03-02T20:11:00.000-05:00Yah, Ron - I'm glad for your work, I'm pretty sure...Yah, Ron - I'm glad for your work, I'm pretty sure that's the direction I see myself going.wezlohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651181921670224308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post-82270685761927141992008-03-02T15:06:00.000-05:002008-03-02T15:06:00.000-05:00I left official pastorate (not to retirement) afte...I left official pastorate (not to retirement) after 28 years in 2006. So I'm familiar with your frustration of pouring new wine into old wineskins that tend to break. Although I imagined it would be "different" outside the establishment, I couldn't fully appreciate the freedom that comes after an extended period of detox for myself. <BR/><BR/>As I meet now with others in less structured settings for worship, evangelism, teaching, counsel, prophecy, giving, serving, fellowship... we struggle to define the incredible difference between "this" (whatever it is) and such similar groups/activities that are connected with a legacy congregation/clergy/finances.<BR/><BR/>Two things are beginning to emerge as distinctive: one is the new freedom from largely invisible tether attached to the organization (budget obligations, church vision statements, clergy personalities/preferences, necessary requirements of schedules, goals, facilities, etc.).<BR/><BR/>Are your gifts and passion finding a comfortable home in the hearts of your community as much as they might in an environment that is not cluttered with the invisible attachments that pervade all established organizations?<BR/><BR/>Seeds for new life don't seem to have as much chance to flourish in a highly developed metropolis as they do in an empty field.<BR/><BR/>But then the empty field has no supermarkets, shopping malls, concert halls, libraries, banks... only holes for foxes and nests for birds. You may be able to find a rock for a pillow, but you will be able to sleep well.<BR/><BR/>Such a break may not be necessary. It is costly in terms of great benefits including pensions, medical plans, housing allowances, training opportunities, pulpit time, discrectionary time, etc. But it might be. I couldn't find an acceptable alternative.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post-72166392141427659282008-02-17T09:49:00.000-05:002008-02-17T09:49:00.000-05:00Sorry I couldn't be there. As it was, Mrs.Q got th...Sorry I couldn't be there. As it was, Mrs.Q got that GI bug around 11AM, so it would have been none to pleasant getting here home from Jersey with that.<BR/><BR/>BTW I still have your dittoJimGhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03957555705589161155noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post-83982532111981097732008-02-17T08:25:00.000-05:002008-02-17T08:25:00.000-05:00This worshiping community has a voice in where I g...This worshiping community has a voice in where I go, no doubt. I couldn't, in good conscience, depart without their leave - I have, after all, been bound in covenant to them.<BR/><BR/>I can't bring myself to read Shane's books at the moment. Not because of the content - but because he's my friend and I'd frankly just rather have coffee with him, reading his book would just remind me that he's not free to do that much anymore.wezlohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651181921670224308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post-33358786974954114452008-02-16T22:54:00.000-05:002008-02-16T22:54:00.000-05:00Sorry to hear turnout was especially low this time...Sorry to hear turnout was especially low this time around. <BR/><BR/>You are right about this conversation needing to be had. The two that I have been to have been informative and helpful to me in discerning Gods voice. I wonder though, as I am not a part of your worshipping community, how others have found them relevant to their own walk. Perhaps giving your own community a voice in answering these questions would be a good way to get them involved.<BR/><BR/>Oh... and Shane Claiborne has a new book coming out soon called "Jesus for President" which I assume should be pretty much awesome.Matthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09029634213201562146noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post-73799652679888163382008-02-16T21:42:00.000-05:002008-02-16T21:42:00.000-05:00Already reading it.Already reading it.wezlohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02651181921670224308noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-1985565078842345162.post-71817913594762502562008-02-16T21:39:00.000-05:002008-02-16T21:39:00.000-05:00Read Greg Boyd's book The Myth of a Christian Nati...Read Greg Boyd's book The Myth of a Christian Nation. It's a must read for what you're preaching.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com